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      <title>Fighting crime Renato's way</title>
      <link>http://www.mekwitalk.net/read.php?1,178786,178786#msg-178786</link>
      <author>liftalee</author>
      <description><![CDATA[http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/Fighting-crime-Reneto-s-way_7889473]]></description>
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      <title>Boy can we run</title>
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      <author>liftalee</author>
      <description><![CDATA[http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20100822/sports/sports1.html

Wonder why Jamaican continue to excel in sprinting. I personally think it's our athletic programs, (school houses etc.) that has your kid running the minute they can walk.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:48:18 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Jamaica: Best Place in the Caribbean</title>
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      <author>liftalee</author>
      <description><![CDATA[According to  Newsweek:


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Newsweek--Jamaica-best-place-in-Caribbean]]></description>
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      <title>Female Pastor empties her husbands house.</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20100818/news/news1.html

Female pastor clear the house of over piece of furniture.]]></description>
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      <title>Hope after Tredegar Park Massacre</title>
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      <author>liftalee</author>
      <description><![CDATA[http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Hope-after-massacre_7887741

Residents trying to pick up the pieces after the brutal killing of 8.]]></description>
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      <title>Fantasia back to promoting her album</title>
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      <author>liftalee</author>
      <description><![CDATA[This woman nearly killed herself over people man, is it a trend among these singers to steal people man nowadays. Alisha Key now  Fantasia


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/lifestyle/Fantasia-back-to-promoting-her-new-album]]></description>
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      <title>Re: PM Golding outraged by ABC and UK reports</title>
      <link>http://www.mekwitalk.net/read.php?1,178755,178779#msg-178779</link>
      <author>liftalee</author>
      <description><![CDATA[This incident exposes the root of corruption in Jamaica like no other. I hope that we can see some progress because of what has taken place.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Mathematicians &quot;Germany will win the World Cup&quot;</title>
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      <author>liftalee</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Now that was a pretty good &quot;prediction&quot; wasn't it?]]></description>
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      <title>Re: I got married</title>
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      <author>observa</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Well!!there will be an addition to my family in December, ny wife is expecting. she is hoping it will be a girl and so am I. Likkle O is hoping it will be a boy as the other day is remarks to his sister was &quot;women&quot; bwoy like gwan like him a big man yu si.

Anyway just giving you all a likkle update.]]></description>
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      <author>observa</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Slagosh Wrote:
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&gt; [b]Observa, remember you are not a &quot;child&quot; anymore.[/b]
&gt; Be a good parent! Take care of the Children and
&gt; the partner also! Congres. Happy times till
&gt; infinity.

Thanks for the good wishes!!please see my reply for the rest in bolded below.

[img]http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/sport/t31009.gif[/img]  [img]http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/sport/t31025.gif[/img]]]></description>
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      <title>Mathematicians &quot;Germany will win the World Cup&quot;</title>
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      <author>Slagosh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[According to Mathematicians, Germany will win the World Cup 2010 in South Africa. Thats my team anyway.

Interesting!!!!

&quot;Fact 1. Brazil won the World Cup in 1994. Before that they had also won it in 1970. Add these two years and you get 3964 (1994+1970 = 3964).

Fact 2. Argentina won its last World Cup in 1986. Before that they had also won it in 1978. Add these two years and you get 3964 (1986+1978 = 3964).
Fact 3. Germany won its last World Cup in 1990. Before that they had also won it in 1974. Add these two years and you get 3964 (1990+1974 = 3964). 

Fact 4. Brazil also won its World Cup in 2002. Before that they had also won it in 1962. Add these two years and you get 3964 (2002+1962 = 3964).
Conclusion = This year is 2010 &amp; 3964 -2010 = 1954. So, country that won in 1954 will win this world cup (2010+1954 = 3964). The country that won in 1954 was Germany . 

Hence, by this logic of numerology, this World Cup will go to Germany . 

...Let us wait &amp; see if this logic bears out - interesting..isn't it..??&quot;]]></description>
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      <author>Slagosh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Observa, remember you are not a &quot;child&quot; anymore. Be a good parent! Take care of the Children and the partner also! Congres. Happy times till infinity.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Dudus extradition</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[This is Extradition is going to open a big can of worms!

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/The-PM-hurt-me-deeply_7769145


News
'The PM hurt me deeply'

• Former top cop charges Dudus was tipped off • Says ‘fire on the backside of J’can people’ spurred action


Sunday, July 04, 2010

The Sunday Observer brings you excerpts of the interview with Rear Admiral Hardley Lewin, former police commissioner and former JDF chief of staff, with CVM Television's Garfield Burford:

THE security forces have continued to do a superb job. (But) we never had to get there. The security forces have a well-developed, call it modus operandi, operational plan for arresting high-profile persons, the kind of persons whose arrest will spark demonstrations. We have used it in the past, particularly with those associated with extradition requests. When you deal with requests for extradition, there are two critical elements — speed and secrecy. If it is the normal Joe Blow whom you're after, the commissioner of police and the chief of staff don't even know about it. It goes through the process; the files move from desk to desk; a warrant is produced; it goes to the fugitive apprehension team; they seek the people; they arrest them. Sometimes I read about in the newspapers. But when you are talking about big fish, the commissioner of police, chief of defence staff get involved: speed and secrecy.


LEWIN… I got up to leave and noticed the minister wasn’t budging
  LEWIN… I got up to leave and noticed the minister wasn’t budging 1/1  

Now on the 24th of August last year, that's the day before the request (for Christopher 'Dudus' Coke) was made, I was advised by the Americans that tomorow they'll be making a request and that they would like to inform the prime minister. I said, Hold on, you've now informed me. It's my duty to inform the prime minister.

I said, 'work through my chain.' So I went to the minister of national security. I said, Minister, 'tomorrow I've been advised by the Americans that they'll be making a request for extradition of 'Dudus'.' The minister turned white! And without saying a word, he went on the telephone to try to find the prime minister. 

In 10 minutes or so he found him at Vale Royal. He said, 'PM, I have the CP with me and he has an urgent matter involving one of your constituents. I think you ought to see him immediately.' I was told, 'The prime minister will see you at Vale Royal.'

I got up to leave and noticed the minister wasn't budging. I said, 'Minister, you're not coming?' He said, 'No! no! no! You go, go, go. You go brief the PM.' I found that strange. But I left his office. The time it took me to the basement, the time to drive to Vale Royal to brief the prime minister, no more than 15 minutes, within that period of time, Christopher 'Dudus' Coke was tipped off and was beating a hasty retreat into Tivoli Gardens. Strange coincidence. Frightening. The time it took me to get to Vale Royal, he was tipped off and was beating a hasty retreat into TG.

(Interviewer : How do you know?) Clearly I am not going to share my intelligence with you. I am saying it is a strange coincidence. Very strange.

I briefed the prime minister and he asked one or two questions. Now I asked the chief of defence staff to accompany me, because clearly, at that point I expected that there would have been a serious hunkering down to talk about the what-ifs, what-are-your-plans, what-do-you-expect-regarding-this-matter? It didn't happen.

The prime minister said, 'Well, I've been briefed.' So we said, 'Look, do the smart thing, and we left. I said, well, this does not have the appearance that it's going to go in the normal manner.

When we have these high-profile persons, speed, in terms of the process, and secrecy are critical. Had we followed the well-established operational procedures, he would have been arrested within 20 minutes or so of us getting a warrant. We would have deployed the forces, because we anticipated that there would have been at least 24 hours before it became generally known that he has been arrested. He's been arrested before and there were no riots or anything.

Now, had all that been done and anybody been killed or hurt or so on, ensuing from that, the PM could not be blamed; the minister could not be blamed. But that's not what happened. We embarked, clearly from all that has happened, we embarked on a strategy that says that anything, everything, must be done to prevent this from taking place. 

Let's look at the history, including the hiring of a lobby firm. And right now we are making much ado about Manatt Phelps &amp; Phillips. It's important, but to me that's not the issue. Manatt, Phelps &amp; Phillips is just the manifestation of the bigger issue.

Mr. Prime Minister, who stood in Parliament, held in his right hand the book of his faith — that book for most of us is the Holy Bible — and swore allegiance to Jamaica, the Constitution, the law and the people. When crunch time came, on whose side did he fall? True to his solemn oath or to Mr Coke and his allies? Just look at what has happened from the 25th and all the efforts made in this regard. I don't have to say that. That is so well-documented.

Now, I ask the people of this country to contemplate this — which is the issue. Suppose the prime minister had had his way? Those people who were already emboldened by the stout and robust defence of the prime minister, to the point where he said he would put his political future on the line, and all the issues that were made up for why it could not go forward — legal issues and so on — matters that have been addressed in previous extradition requests by the High Court. 

Coming down now to the last bit of thing, which was the constable and wiretap, a shift in goal post. Those people who were emboldened. Imagine if the PM had his way. They were large before. You know what went wrong? They were so emboldened, they decided to go burn down police stations after barricading themselves. 

It backfired. For the first time, people of this country and organisations decided to take a stance. When you see the burning police stations, it wasn't stations that were burning, it was fire under the backside of the Jamaican people, that lit them up.

So I am not impressed with Mr Golding's new-found transformation. And he's now crime-fighter-in-chief, garrison-dismantler-in-chief. I'm not impressed by that. He was forced. Supposed he had his way, Mr Coke and his friends would be celebrating him as the garrison-entrencher-in-chief. Then, what about the rest of us?

Listen to me carefully, what this would have meant is that sometime in the future, it could be even another JLP (Jamaica Labour Party) government, trying now to deal with what would have developed as a consequence; to wrestle this problem, we wouldn't be having 73 people killed, it would be 730. The fight would not be contained within one little sector of Kingston, it would be islandwide.

...Let me explain something to you. If there are three million people in Jamaica and 2,999,999 are of the view that the PM should stay, this is one who says he should resign. This has nothing to do with Manatt, Phelps. Manatt, Phelps is a minor manifestation of the major issue... He (PM) took a solemn oath, like all parliamentarians, to the people of Jamaica, the Constitution and the laws. When the decision comes now to act in accordance with that, he sided with, and robustly defended, someone who is wanted.

...I am deeply hurt. I was deeply hurt, deeply disapppointed by the actions of the prime minister. The prime minister should do the honourable thing. There are two things which have suffered and continue to suffer in this country in the last 10 months — truth and honour.

We are in a little process right now, where every time most people speak, last one was Mr Montaque, we are quoting from the Bible. Well, I have one of my own, one that I have used to guide my own life. It's Proverbs 11:3. &quot;The integrity of the upright shall guide them, but the perverseness of transgressors shall destroy them.&quot;]]></description>
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      <author>frankster</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Could this be a US pretext, in order to label Jamaica a narco-state or worse one whose government is ineffective thereby giving the US reason to enter and rob Jamaica of its mineral rights...ala Haiti?]]></description>
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      <author>observa</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Dang girl [img]http://bestsmileys.com/hugging/4.gif[/img] you are like a breath of fresh air.

Love you]]></description>
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      <author>Cutie</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Congrats babe, is buck up I decide to check this site, so happy for you, you sure deserve it.

xx oo

C]]></description>
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      <author>gbbarl</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Lie with dogs, Mr. Golding, you will catch fleas.

Thanks for the article, Observa.]]></description>
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      <author>gbbarl</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Latest from the AP is that Dudus is in direct negoitiations with U.S. authorities to surrender in New York.  They he could arrive in New York as early as this weekend.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:31:10 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Association Of Accounting Technician</title>
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      <author>Slagosh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Anyone Studying AAT?]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Dudus extradition</title>
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      <author>Slagosh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[observa Wrote:
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&gt; One article said Dudus requested to be escorted to
&gt; USA by USA Marshalls, rumoured that he thinks if
&gt; Jamaica incarcerate him he will go out like his
&gt; Dad, who supposedly used gasoline in prison to end
&gt; his life. Dudus Dad went up in flames supposedly
&gt; suicide
&gt; 
&gt; Also remember that Jamdung sign extradition treaty
&gt; with USA, even though it oneside. If jamaica ever
&gt; request one American citizen to be extradited to
&gt; jamaica that would never happen. Yes all those
&gt; political parties need to be revamped, no ties to
&gt; gangs.


This extradition treaty will never be just. I put the blame on the Prime Minister for being indecisive! He dragged his feet on signing the papers only to sign them later! It will be understandable if he refused altogether to sign the papers! There was absolutely no need to have used military intervention to search for Dudus. Only the Intelligence Unit would be the ideal choice to use for the capture of Dudus. If indeed he requested to be transfered thats where he should go once he has been captured.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 11:10:01 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Dudus extradition</title>
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      <author>Slagosh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Word has it that both Dudus &amp; Golding have ties! though its only said in 1 line (that they have ties), how true is it? Jamaica is cursed. Innocent souls are killed! No wonder most prefer to be in &quot;exile&quot;! Who can stand losing life for no good reason. Better you jump and live. Goldings' integrity is already at stake. People like Robert Mugabe will be happy knowing that he has a partner in crime.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 10:15:33 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dudus extradition</title>
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      <author>gbbarl</author>
      <description><![CDATA[GBBARL here in Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires.

A report from the AP says that even after the extradition request was made last year, the Jamaican government continued to award Coke's company, Incomparable Enterprises, millions of dollars in contracts.

Time to stop arguing about the fairness of the extradition treaty and send Mr. Coke packing.  He is not worth the regression that have befallen our country because of him.  Then parliment must have it's own &quot;extradition&quot; by having a no-confidence vote to sack Bruce Golding.]]></description>
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      <title>PM Golding outraged by ABC and UK reports</title>
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      <author>jamaican-sister</author>
      <description><![CDATA[News
PM Golding outraged by ABC and UK reports
2010-05-25 21:53:48 | 



The Office of the Prime Minister of Jamaica has released a statement countering reports that appeared in the foreign press today. 

Prime Minister Bruce Golding has categorically denied and dismissed as extremely offensive, reports on the US –ABC network which describe him as ‘a known criminal affiliate of hunted drug lord’, Christopher ‘Dudus’ Coke. 

Mr Golding says he is also outraged by an article in The Independent, a UK newspaper, that the ‘drug gang was on (the) payroll of Jamaican Prime Minister’. 

He said both publications, by seeking to link him personally with the alleged drug kingpin, were clearly part of a conspiracy to undermine the duly elected government of Jamaica. 

The Prime Minister said the reports have made damaging and libellous assertions and he repudiated the scurrilous and malicious reporting, which he said must be dismissed with the contempt that it deserves.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Dudus extradition</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Slagosh Wrote:
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&gt; He would face life in prison if found guilty! Is
&gt; the justice system in Jamaican society a fly by
&gt; night one! Why can't he face trial at home once
&gt; and for all. Whats the use of having judges taking
&gt; them to school and then extradite criminals to
&gt; first world countries! Are the judges not
&gt; qualified enough? With Golding we are doomed!
&gt; Golding must go.

One article said Dudus requested to be escorted to USA by USA Marshalls, rumoured that he thinks if Jamaica incarcerate him he will go out like his Dad, who supposedly used [b]gasoline in prison[/b] to end is life. Dudus Dad went up in flames supposedly [b]suicide[/b]

Also remember that Jamdung sign extradition treaty with USA, even though it oneside. If jamaica ever request one American citizen to be extradited to jamaica that would never happen. Yes all those political parties need to be revamped, no ties to gangs.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 07:27:26 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Article on Golding and Dudus</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Hopefully when this is all over jamaica can return to its former lustre.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 07:16:52 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Article on Golding and Dudus</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/drug-gang-was-on-payroll-of-jamaican-prime-minister-1982887.html
From: David Usborne in New York and Naomi Francis in Kingston 


More than 30 killed as government steps up hunt for former ally Christopher Coke

The same drug gang that is now battling security forces in Jamaica in a bloody urban stand-off was openly used by the island's ruling party to bring supporters to the polls and intimidate opposition voters in elections three years ago, Caribbean political experts suggested yesterday.

The &quot;Shower Posse&quot; gang, led by the outlaw and alleged drug kingpin Christopher &quot;Dudus&quot; Coke, was yesterday locked in brutal combat with more than a thousand members of Jamaica's security forces in West Kingston, in a bid to stave off their leader's extradition to the US on drug and gun charges. The clashes have so far killed more than 30, according to a Kingston hospital.

But those hostilities were in sharp contrast to previous relations between Coke and the ruling Jamaica Labour Party, led by Prime Minister Bruce Golding. David Rowe, a University of Miami adjunct professor and lawyer who specialises in Jamaican law, says they used to have an &quot;almost symbiotic relationship&quot;. 

Although the security minister, Dwight Nelson, insisted that police were &quot;on top of the situation&quot; and promised that &quot;we will not allow criminals to take over the country&quot;, there was little evidence of the violence abating. But the JLP is not alone in its responsibility for the situation. As Kingston endures its worst violence in years, there was little escaping the fact that it was sown over many years not just by the JLP but also by the main opposition: the People's National Party (PNP).

Kingston was reaping the consequences of that tolerance last night. Although security forces broke through the barricades around the Tivoli Gardens neighbourhood and cut off the electricity supply to Coke's power-base, gunshots could still be heard. According to residents, bodies were lying in the streets, although that claim could not be verified as reporters are banned from the area.

In one building in the enclave, 15 women and children were said to be trapped without food, water or medication, not daring to venture out for fear of being caught in the crossfire. Some called radio stations to express their terror. &quot;We're holed up in a building across from Denham Town police station with no food and sick children,&quot; said one resident. &quot;We need help.&quot;

Yesterday the violence in West Kingston spilled over to other poor neighbourhoods. A firefight in Spanish Town killed two people, including a boy, and streets and businesses across the capital were deserted. Meanwhile, gangs from slums outside the capital erected barricades and fired on troops. There was also an attack on the city's central police station. Officers have detained 211 people believed to be Coke's supporters and seized guns, ammunition and bullet-proof vests.

&quot;It is rather precisely defined,&quot; Larry Birns, director of the Council on Hemispheric Affairs in Washington DC, said last night, describing the network of so-called &quot;garrison&quot; districts in Kingston, where gangs are affiliated with the parties. &quot;Certain neighbourhoods are PNP neighbourhoods and others are Labour [JLP] neighbourhoods. Basically, it has meant that 'These are my gunslingers and, if you shoot my guys, we are going to have to shoot yours'.&quot;

No one has gained more from these relationships than Coke. It was partly the expanding reach of his power that prompted the US Justice Department last August to submit its formal request for his extradition to Mr Golding, who stalled for nine months before last week finally acquiescing.

&quot;We must admit that we have been laying the foundation for yesterday's events for a long time,&quot; the Jamaica Observer said in an editorial yesterday. &quot;For a long time we have been heading for an explosion as those who have held the reins of government have given succour to criminals in their blinkered thirst for political power... It has to stop.&quot;

For years, a sort of balance of power existed between the parties and the gangs. The drug dons would fundraise for campaigns and mobilise voters at election time. The politicians would promise contracts and turn a blind eye to their drug-trafficking activities. When Coke's father, Lester Coke, who headed the Shower Posse before him, died in prison in 1992, Edward Seaga, the Prime Minister and JLP leader, marched at his funeral. Coke's former lawyer was a senior figure in the JLP. And his consulting company has earned millions over the years from government contracts.

According to Mr Rowe, the balance of mutual benefit between the JLP and Coke went awry in recent years as Coke's clout has grown. He has since begun to overwhelm the government and the police force.

The US State Department made clear in a report on the delays in the Coke extradition that it understood the history. &quot;The government of Jamaica's unusual handling of the August request for the extradition of a high-profile Jamaican crime lord, with reported ties to the ruling JLP... raises serious questions about the government's commitment to combating transnational crime,&quot; it said.




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      <author>Slagosh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[He would face life in prison if found guilty! Is the justice system in Jamaican society a fly by night one! Why can't he face trial at home once and for all. Whats the use of having judges taking them to school and then extradite criminals to first world countries! Are the judges not qualified enough? With Golding we are doomed! Golding must go.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 07:00:25 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dudus extradition</title>
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      <author>gbbarl</author>
      <description><![CDATA[No one is concerned about poor people except when it comes to defending thugs and vampires like Dudus.  The Jamaican government, past and present, has allowed these sub-humans to take over every facet of their constituencies, and now the country as a whole.  Who cares that he &quot;provided&quot; food and clothing for women and children in his community?  He is an alleged criminal.  If he had one iota of concern for Jamaica, this worm would crawl out of his hole in Tivoli Gardens and surrender to the authorities.  44 people-ordinary citizens, soldiers and police are dead, and many more will die because of this man.  Half of the business community in the capital is paralyzed.  Jamaica is taking a beating in reports by the BBC, CNN, FOX and other foreign presses.  Even Al Jazeera, the Arab press based in Qatar, dubbed Jamaica an island of music and murder.  Enough of this nonsense.

The best interest of the state must be served over one individual.  Crush him and those who are stupid enough to defend him.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 02:42:07 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dudus extradition</title>
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      <author>jamaican-sister</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Observa - I am doing great.

I hear you when you say there are innocent people who live in these areas but these criminals have declared war on the state.  We all know that when there is war innocent lives are going to be lost.  There is no way around it.  The authorities cannot allow these criminals to win.  The goverment has been left with no choice but to retaliate.  It is time the people from these communities stop shielding crime lords like Dudus.  Obviously Dudus and his followers have no regard for innocent lives because if they did they would not have launched an all out war on the state.  Someone needs to secretly provoke the PNP stongholds so that they can come out and have an all out war with the JLP strongholds and then stand back and watch them kill each other.  I am sick and tired of this nonsense.  If they could just kill each other once and for all and take the leaders of the JLP (including Seaga) and PNP with them that would be great.  Jamaica needs a new start and it cannot happen until it is rid of the criminals and politicians.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 15:48:35 -0400</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[JamSis, how are you and thanks for the well wishes on my marriage. Yes I hear you on the state of stuff in jamadung still feel for all the innocent people that it will affect. Nuff people dying who even though they live tivoli is decent hardworking peeps who just poor.

Take care]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 13:29:19 -0400</pubDate>
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