No changes here then, Frankster you still bashing the good book!

Dee

Where Have you been?
It is good to see you - happy new yr


Why would you say such a thing?
I am not bashing the Good Book, what I am bashing is the lies good people believe about the Good book.




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2 Timothy 3:16

"All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. "

...............take from it what you will Frankter. BTW happy new year to you too ;

Deelighted Wrote:
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> 2 Timothy 3:16
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> "All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial
> for teaching, for reproving, for setting things
> straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that
> the man of God may be fully competent, completely
> equipped for every good work. "
>
> ...............take from it what you will
> Frankter. BTW happy new year to you too ;

I take from it what it says, scripture is there for our benefit and to aid us in doing good - righteousness

Have you ever considered that the "all scripture" Paul is refering to here is what you and I know as the old testament only?, and does not apply to the new testament - as it did not exist then.




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2010 05:25AM by frankster.

I do believe that both old and new testaments (Hebrew and Greek scriptures) were penned under the same divine inspiration regardless of the period they were written. The contents of the old testament have been undisputedly backed up by secular history, with many of the prophetic words of the new testament slowly being revealed to those who chose to listen.

We are all entitled to our beliefs or what we choose to believe, having said that because we believe a thing, the act of believing does not make it true,accurate or factual.
All of Mankinds works are inspired, with that I will not argue. Today there is countless translation of the bible each having varing degrees of difference in there words leading one to often come away with differing meanings.
Which then is then is the Divine Inspiration?




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varying degrees yes,but not so as to distort the fundamental messages. With faith one should be able to discern truth from falsehood.

Each and every variation will lead to a different destination, a slight insignificant change over time and space will become great, the further back the divergence the greater the distance from the original meaning you will arrive at.

eg: << Luke 17:21 >>

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."
King James Bible
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Is the "Kingdom of God" communal or personal?




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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2010 10:32AM by frankster.

I take the former interpretation ! It still goes back to faith. If one accepts that the bible is indeed the word of God, one will accept that the supreme ruler of the universe has the power to ensure that overall message remains intact.

Bear in mind that the bible is not in its original language and anguages and interpretations have changed significantly over the years. Which when you consider how many thousands of years , rise and fall of numerous dynasties and whole civilizations completely eliminated, I am surprised that changes are not more significant.

Dee

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I take the former interpretation ! It still goes back to faith. If one accepts that the bible is indeed the word of God, one will accept that the supreme ruler of the universe has the power to ensure that overall message remains intact.

I take the latter.
Wont argue with faith, are you willing to reason?
If so...
Is then the bible the word of God or Man?
How do you know if its either? or?

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Bear in mind that the bible is not in its original language and anguages and interpretations have changed significantly over the years.Which when you consider how many thousands of years , rise and fall of numerous dynasties and whole civilizations completely eliminated,

I am well aware of the history of the bible, and it is for that reason I call into question its veracity.

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I am surprised that changes are not more significant.

How can you know the level of change if you do not have the original with which to measure.




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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/09/2010 05:57AM by frankster.

The answer to that is simple.....FAITH.

Deelighted Wrote:
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> The answer to that is simple.....FAITH.

Like I said, I wont argue with FAITH, Now do you care to reason?




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/08/2010 04:41PM by frankster.